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InnleggSkrevet: 21 Feb 2008 23:36:48    Tittel: Genealogy program for Macs. Svar med Sitat

What genealogy programs are available for Mac users? I should know this but
forget and I can't seem to find it by searching.
John
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InnleggSkrevet: 21 Feb 2008 23:50:55    Tittel: Re: Genealogy program for Macs. Svar med Sitat

jburns wrote:
Sitat:
What genealogy programs are available for Mac users? I should know this
but forget and I can't seem to find it by searching.
John


Two of the best are:

GEDitCOM - http://www.geditcom.com/

Reunion - http://www.leisterpro.com/
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InnleggSkrevet: 22 Feb 2008 01:42:27    Tittel: Re: Genealogy program for Macs. Svar med Sitat

jburns wrote:
Sitat:
What genealogy programs are available for Mac users? I should know this
but forget and I can't seem to find it by searching.
John

in my opinionm not much

I use FTM 16 on WinXp sp2 on Paralles 3 on Mac OS 10.4.11 on an Intel
MacBook Pro

Hugh W

--
For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and
district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/

http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks

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InnleggSkrevet: 22 Feb 2008 01:46:49    Tittel: Re: Genealogy program for Macs. Svar med Sitat

Using FTM looks a bit complicated. Reunion is $99 and GEDitCOM is $49. Are
there any free ones like PAF is?
John
"Hugh Watkins" <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Sitat:
jburns wrote:
What genealogy programs are available for Mac users? I should know this
but forget and I can't seem to find it by searching.
John

in my opinionm not much

I use FTM 16 on WinXp sp2 on Paralles 3 on Mac OS 10.4.11 on an Intel
MacBook Pro

Hugh W

--
For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and
district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/

http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks

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InnleggSkrevet: 22 Feb 2008 07:03:08    Tittel: Re: Genealogy program for Macs. Svar med Sitat

jburns wrote:
Sitat:
Using FTM looks a bit complicated. Reunion is $99 and GEDitCOM is $49.
Are there any free ones like PAF is?
John
"Hugh Watkins" <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:626gj3F215vr5U1@mid.individual.net...
jburns wrote:
What genealogy programs are available for Mac users? I should know
this but forget and I can't seem to find it by searching.
John

in my opinionm not much

I use FTM 16 on WinXp sp2 on Paralles 3 on Mac OS 10.4.11 on an Intel
MacBook Pro

Hugh W

--
For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and
district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/

http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks

GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG

Hi Jburns,

I advise you to in future not to top post as it mangles the thread of
the topic and puts it out of kilter.
Any person who is visual challenge that uses software to translate the
text in to voice ends up getting a rather disjointed picture of what has
been said.

As for Free MAC Genealogy Programs I suspect there are none at all.
As for free windows Genealogy Programs, you already know about PAF so I
will add in Legacy SE this is the full blown program that needs to be
registered and then you pay for a code to get every bell and whistle to
work, however you can use it just fine without the extra bells and whistles.
IMHO it is a top notch program and IMHO better than FTM some others will
disagree, however that is my Opinion.

Try doing a Google search and see what you come up with.
For all I know GRAMPS which is a LINUX Genealogical program may work on
your system.

At the end of the day you need to get the programs that best suites your
style or researching and record keeping plus any added features that you
would like to use.
If you do not know yet you will find that there is no one perfect
Genealogy Program quite a lot of use use more than one program for one
reason or another.

Happy hunting.
David
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InnleggSkrevet: 22 Feb 2008 10:29:29    Tittel: Re: Genealogy program for Macs. Svar med Sitat

In message <Q9mvj.32657$FO1.6542@edtnps82>
"jburns" <johnburns@telus.net> wrote:

Sitat:
What genealogy programs are available for Mac users? I should know this but
forget and I can't seem to find it by searching.
John


Reunion

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InnleggSkrevet: 22 Feb 2008 15:01:57    Tittel: Re: Genealogy program for Macs. Svar med Sitat

nearly two years and dead easy

FTM 2008 is newer technology .net but still unfinished

FTM 16 has an excelent GUI
If you are moving from PS to Mac you can keep all your old programs

With Parallels transporter you can make a disk image
of your old PC and open it on the Mac


Hugh W


jburns wrote:
Sitat:
Using FTM looks a bit complicated. Reunion is $99 and GEDitCOM is $49.
Are there any free ones like PAF is?
John
"Hugh Watkins" <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:626gj3F215vr5U1@mid.individual.net...
jburns wrote:
What genealogy programs are available for Mac users? I should know
this but forget and I can't seem to find it by searching.
John

in my opinionm not much

I use FTM 16 on WinXp sp2 on Paralles 3 on Mac OS 10.4.11 on an Intel
MacBook Pro

Hugh W

--
For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and
district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/

http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks

GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG



--
For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and
district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/

http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks

GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG
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InnleggSkrevet: 22 Feb 2008 16:03:17    Tittel: Re: Genealogy program for Macs. Svar med Sitat

Graeme Wall wrote:
Sitat:
In message <Q9mvj.32657$FO1.6542@edtnps82
"jburns" <johnburns@telus.net> wrote:

What genealogy programs are available for Mac users? I should know this but
forget and I can't seem to find it by searching.
John


Reunion


googles well

http://www.leisterpro.com/index.php
I bought version 8 and took an instant dislike to it becasue you cannot
use the trees to navigate only to print out
Just opened it and it failed to find my default browser in the system

I also purchases HEREDIS 10..3

http://www.myheredis.com/
HEREDIS Mac X.2,

neither program seems as easy to me as FTM 16 with its big family page

I cannot make reunion 8 full screen at 1680 by 1050

I made a blog http://mac-on-intel.blogspot.com/ but have little to say

a pictue of my set up snapped with a videophone
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2281/2095489683_fcdde885a1_b.jpg

see also
http://mac-on-intel.blogspot.com/search?q=Family+Tree+Maker+16+on+a+Ma cintosh+Cinema+HD+VDU+at+1920+x+1200+pixels
on my old videophone

Finally exporting a gedcom to world connect enables me to view my data
in many other ways

http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=lapham

customised by css

all the William LAPHAM so far for example
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=lapham&recno=4530
http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=lapham&recno=4631

lots to do

hugh W



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InnleggSkrevet: 22 Feb 2008 16:24:51    Tittel: Re: Genealogy program for Macs. Svar med Sitat

In message <628315F21u5suU1@mid.individual.net>
Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote:

Sitat:
Graeme Wall wrote:
In message <Q9mvj.32657$FO1.6542@edtnps82
"jburns" <johnburns@telus.net> wrote:

What genealogy programs are available for Mac users? I should know this but
forget and I can't seem to find it by searching.
John


Reunion


googles well

http://www.leisterpro.com/index.php
I bought version 8 and took an instant dislike to it becasue you cannot
use the trees to navigate only to print out

????

Do you mean the overview tree? Just click on the names as it says at the
bottom.

--
Graeme Wall

My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy>
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InnleggSkrevet: 22 Feb 2008 18:05:20    Tittel: Re: Genealogy program for Macs. Svar med Sitat

In article <11a27754f%Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk>,
Graeme Wall <Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:

Sitat:
In message <628315F21u5suU1@mid.individual.net
Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote:

Graeme Wall wrote:
In message <Q9mvj.32657$FO1.6542@edtnps82
"jburns" <johnburns@telus.net> wrote:

What genealogy programs are available for Mac users? I should
know this but forget and I can't seem to find it by searching.
John


Reunion


googles well

http://www.leisterpro.com/index.php
I bought version 8 and took an instant dislike to it becasue you cannot
use the trees to navigate only to print out

????

Do you mean the overview tree? Just click on the names as it says at the
bottom.

Hugh has a history of bashing Reunion and seems determined to respond to
all such queries by suggesting FTM and Windows on Intel-based Macs.

I think the overview trees are a new feature in Reunion 9. Hugh is
correct that he can't get a full screen display in Reunion 8, but that's
no longer true in Reunion 9. In fact, Reunion 9 was written from the
ground up to be a native OS X application. It's greatly improved over
the previous versions.

While there are other applications for the Mac, and even some that are
cheaper, I think the best thing the OP can do is visit the Leister web
site and download Reunion for a demo. And Hugh should do the same just
so he'll have a more recent version against which to make his arguments
in favor of using Windows and FTM on a Mac.

= Steve =
--
Steve W. Jackson
Montgomery, Alabama
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InnleggSkrevet: 22 Feb 2008 18:34:34    Tittel: Re: Genealogy program for Macs. Svar med Sitat

In message <stevewjackson-7C59A2.10052022022008@news.individual.net>
"Steve W. Jackson" <stevewjackson@knology.net> wrote:

Sitat:
In article <11a27754f%Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk>,
Graeme Wall <Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <628315F21u5suU1@mid.individual.net
Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote:

Graeme Wall wrote:
In message <Q9mvj.32657$FO1.6542@edtnps82
"jburns" <johnburns@telus.net> wrote:

What genealogy programs are available for Mac users? I should
know this but forget and I can't seem to find it by searching.
John


Reunion


googles well

http://www.leisterpro.com/index.php
I bought version 8 and took an instant dislike to it becasue you cannot
use the trees to navigate only to print out

????

Do you mean the overview tree? Just click on the names as it says at the
bottom.

Hugh has a history of bashing Reunion and seems determined to respond to
all such queries by suggesting FTM and Windows on Intel-based Macs.

I think the overview trees are a new feature in Reunion 9.

I'm still on V8 and have got them.

Sitat:
Hugh is
correct that he can't get a full screen display in Reunion 8,

Have to say that doesn't bother me but then I have a habit of working with
both Reunion and, eg, a web-browser on screen together when I'm looking up
various things. I came from an Acorn, not Windows, so I'm not used to Apps
having to take over all the screen.

Sitat:
but that's
no longer true in Reunion 9. In fact, Reunion 9 was written from the
ground up to be a native OS X application. It's greatly improved over
the previous versions.

Must upgrade then.


--
Graeme Wall

My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy>
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InnleggSkrevet: 22 Feb 2008 18:44:59    Tittel: Re: Genealogy program for Macs. Svar med Sitat

In article <627ve5F223gm2U1@mid.individual.net>,
Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> writes:
Sitat:
nearly two years and dead easy

FTM 2008 is newer technology .net but still unfinished

FTM 16 has an excelent GUI
If you are moving from PS to Mac you can keep all your old programs

With Parallels transporter you can make a disk image
of your old PC and open it on the Mac


Hugh W


jburns wrote:
Using FTM looks a bit complicated. Reunion is $99 and GEDitCOM is $49.
Are there any free ones like PAF is?
John
"Hugh Watkins" <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:626gj3F215vr5U1@mid.individual.net...
jburns wrote:
What genealogy programs are available for Mac users? I should know
this but forget and I can't seem to find it by searching.
John

in my opinionm not much

I use FTM 16 on WinXp sp2 on Paralles 3 on Mac OS 10.4.11 on an Intel
MacBook Pro

Hugh W

--
For genealogy and help with family and local history in Bristol and
district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/

http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks

GENEALOGE http://hughw36.blogspot.com/ MAIN BLOG



This is not an attack on Hugh, but folks leave Gatesware for

alternative operating environments for a variety of reasons,
many - if not most - having to do with reliability and stability.
In that case, why would they want to install a windows emulator
on their systems, rather than "go native"? Yeah, there are tons
of applications in Gatesworld, but their counterparts exist for,
e.g., Apple, even if not in the same numbers. Such programis are
frequently better written and more powerful, tho' that's not
guaranteed.

Disclaimer: I use neither Gates Universal Computer Virus and
operating system nor Apple OS-anything. I really don't have
a dog in this fight.

Sysadmin Ol' Bob

--
Robert G. Melson | Rio Grande MicroSolutions | El Paso, Texas
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reason so few engage in it. -- Henry Ford
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InnleggSkrevet: 22 Feb 2008 20:11:23    Tittel: Re: Genealogy program for Macs. Svar med Sitat

Thanks to everyone for the information-I will pass it along. I use PAF 5
myself.
John
"Graeme Wall" <Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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InnleggSkrevet: 22 Feb 2008 23:32:14    Tittel: Re: Genealogy program for Macs. Svar med Sitat

Graeme Wall wrote:
Sitat:
In message <628315F21u5suU1@mid.individual.net
Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote:

Graeme Wall wrote:
In message <Q9mvj.32657$FO1.6542@edtnps82
"jburns" <johnburns@telus.net> wrote:

What genealogy programs are available for Mac users? I should know this but
forget and I can't seem to find it by searching.
John

Reunion

googles well

http://www.leisterpro.com/index.php
I bought version 8 and took an instant dislike to it becasue you cannot
use the trees to navigate only to print out

????

Do you mean the overview tree? Just click on the names as it says at the
bottom.


nope

any tree in FTM 16 in any format

double click any name to edit the data

select a name and click on a button to go to that family page

Hugh W




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district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/

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InnleggSkrevet: 22 Feb 2008 23:36:22    Tittel: Re: Genealogy program for Macs. Svar med Sitat

Steve W. Jackson wrote:
Sitat:
In article <11a27754f%Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk>,
Graeme Wall <Graeme@greywall.demon.co.uk> wrote:

In message <628315F21u5suU1@mid.individual.net
Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote:

Graeme Wall wrote:
In message <Q9mvj.32657$FO1.6542@edtnps82
"jburns" <johnburns@telus.net> wrote:

What genealogy programs are available for Mac users? I should
know this but forget and I can't seem to find it by searching.
John

Reunion

googles well

http://www.leisterpro.com/index.php
I bought version 8 and took an instant dislike to it becasue you cannot
use the trees to navigate only to print out
????

Do you mean the overview tree? Just click on the names as it says at the
bottom.

Hugh has a history of bashing Reunion

because the money I paid was wasted

and seems determined to respond to
Sitat:
all such queries by suggesting FTM and Windows on Intel-based Macs.

I think the overview trees are a new feature in Reunion 9. Hugh is
correct that he can't get a full screen display in Reunion 8, but that's
no longer true in Reunion 9. In fact, Reunion 9 was written from the
ground up to be a native OS X application. It's greatly improved over
the previous versions.

While there are other applications for the Mac, and even some that are
cheaper, I think the best thing the OP can do is visit the Leister web
site and download Reunion for a demo. And Hugh should do the same just
so he'll have a more recent version against which to make his arguments
in favor of using Windows and FTM on a Mac.

but I use WinXp for lots of other things
I just enjoy the best of both worlds

browser choices for example MS IE 7 is handy as a webmaster
or for banks etc ect

I like the FTM family page approach where I canb enter or edit parents
and children with out touching the mouse

Hugh W


--
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district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/

http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks

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InnleggSkrevet: 22 Feb 2008 23:41:17    Tittel: Re: Genealogy program for Macs. Svar med Sitat

jburns wrote:
Sitat:
Thanks to everyone for the information-I will pass it along. I use PAF 5
myself.

which I have on the Windows machines too

whole screen is about old eyes and big print

I always use two screens with my Macs since the 9# balck and white dsys
an SE 30 had one slot and the first extra you got was a video card with
256 colors / or greys

Hugh W


--
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district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/

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InnleggSkrevet: 22 Feb 2008 23:50:58    Tittel: Re: Genealogy program for Macs. Svar med Sitat

In message <628tatF21u81fU2@mid.individual.net>
Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote:

Sitat:
Graeme Wall wrote:
In message <628315F21u5suU1@mid.individual.net
Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote:

Graeme Wall wrote:
In message <Q9mvj.32657$FO1.6542@edtnps82
"jburns" <johnburns@telus.net> wrote:

What genealogy programs are available for Mac users? I should know this but
forget and I can't seem to find it by searching.
John

Reunion

googles well

http://www.leisterpro.com/index.php
I bought version 8 and took an instant dislike to it becasue you cannot
use the trees to navigate only to print out

????

Do you mean the overview tree? Just click on the names as it says at the
bottom.


nope

What trees do you mean then?


--
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My genealogy website <www.greywall.demon.co.uk/genealogy>
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InnleggSkrevet: 23 Feb 2008 03:26:45    Tittel: Re: Genealogy program for Macs. Svar med Sitat

Graeme Wall wrote:
Sitat:
In message <628tatF21u81fU2@mid.individual.net
Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote:

Graeme Wall wrote:
In message <628315F21u5suU1@mid.individual.net
Hugh Watkins <hugh.watkins@gmail.com> wrote:

Graeme Wall wrote:
In message <Q9mvj.32657$FO1.6542@edtnps82
"jburns" <johnburns@telus.net> wrote:

What genealogy programs are available for Mac users? I should know this but
forget and I can't seem to find it by searching.
John

Reunion
googles well

http://www.leisterpro.com/index.php
I bought version 8 and took an instant dislike to it becasue you cannot
use the trees to navigate only to print out
????

Do you mean the overview tree? Just click on the names as it says at the
bottom.

nope

What trees do you mean then?

all of them - see the snapshots in my blog - URL is in the thread

Hugh W

--
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district http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Brycgstow/

http://snaps4.blogspot.com/ photographs and walks

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InnleggSkrevet: 23 Feb 2008 06:34:02    Tittel: Re: Genealogy program for Macs. Svar med Sitat

On Feb 21, 3:36 pm, "jburns" <johnbu...@telus.net> wrote:
Sitat:
What genealogy programs are available for Mac users? I should know this but
forget and I can't seem to find it by searching.

I've been using iFamily for Tiger, which is a great program very well-
supported by its author. He is constantly releasing updates and taking
user feedback. And he has a "register once, get all subsequent updates
free" approach.

http://www.ifamilyfortiger.com/

--Josh
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InnleggSkrevet: 23 Feb 2008 17:03:04    Tittel: Re: Genealogy program for Macs. Svar med Sitat

Graeme Wall wrote:


Sitat:
Have to say that doesn't bother me but then I have a habit of working with
both Reunion and, eg, a web-browser on screen together when I'm looking up
various things. I came from an Acorn, not Windows, so I'm not used to Apps
having to take over all the screen.

In some situations in one's work-life, one needs to be able
to READ from two desks away column 8 of the 6th line of a
spreadsheet. If one can't read it, it's too small,
regardless of the quality of the monitor.

Others have vision issues which make full-screen inadequate
and split-screening a waste of time.

My son and his wife used to have 12 windows open on their
*ix screens; last week with a baby newly walking, they were
down to 4 windows.


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InnleggSkrevet: 25 Feb 2008 03:28:03    Tittel: Re: Genealogy program for Macs. Svar med Sitat

We're a Mac household - I've got Reunion version 9, and have been
using Reunion since Christmas 1997 when hubbie bought me version 5.
Right from the get-go, it was easy to use out of the box (no learning
curve). As my experience with and knowledge of genealogy has expanded
over the years, it's kept up with me (I have more sophisticated
requirements now, but its still doing everything I want it to), while
at the same time, would still be great for a first timer.

What's not to like?

M
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InnleggSkrevet: 25 Feb 2008 14:40:38    Tittel: Re: Genealogy program for Macs. Svar med Sitat

Mary_Gordon@tvo.org wrote:
Sitat:
We're a Mac household - I've got Reunion version 9, and have been
using Reunion since Christmas 1997 when hubbie bought me version 5.
Right from the get-go, it was easy to use out of the box (no learning
curve). As my experience with and knowledge of genealogy has expanded
over the years, it's kept up with me (I have more sophisticated
requirements now, but its still doing everything I want it to), while
at the same time, would still be great for a first timer.

What's not to like?


exactly why I like FTM 16

when I moved from the Mac to the PC to use voice recognition software
and also started geenalogy
I just got the big box in the computer store
which happend to be FTM - also a waste of money with all those CDs

we all like or love what we know


coming back to the Mac I got the two programs mentioned and found they
were not as good as FTM

Re-entering the Mac cummunity
(I dithered between a Son Vaio laptop and a MacBook Pro)
I joined some usent groups and got some Macintosh magazines one of which
praised Parallels - which was on the last couple of days of its half
price launch offer - after some experiments I got an OEM Windows Xp
disk from a build your own 'puter shop and isntalled FTM 16

warning !!!
FTM17 AKA FTM 2008 - and with newer better technology - is not yet as
easy to use as FTM 16

Hghh W


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