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InnleggSkrevet: 18 Apr 2008 19:45:46    Tittel: Ovalem or Gvalem Gard in Tysnes. Svar med Sitat

I found the baptism (#30) for a Sussanna on 13 Jul 1822 which shows parents are Hendrich Meyer Ovalem? and Marie Benedicta. No patronym, so I'm at a loss what to look for in the 1801 census. There isn't a Gard by the name of Ovalem or Gvalem or Gralem.
Does anyone have information on this family or Gard? Bygdebok?
Any assistance in direction or answers would be appreciated.
Thank you,
David Vinge
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InnleggSkrevet: 19 Apr 2008 00:09:09    Tittel: Re: Ovalem or Gvalem Gard in Tysnes. Svar med Sitat

In Tysnes Gaard og Ættesoge (bygdebok) nr.3 : Marie Benedikte Haugs (1784-1846) gift in 1808 Henrik (Meyer) Qvalem from Ølve (1785-1852). They had 9 children. One was henrik Meyer Kvalem. 1865 cencus
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=hentglobal&regis ter=gardsnavn&pgj=254&teljing=ft1865&filnamn=f61223.wc2&amt=12&funnenr =134

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Ble registrert: 22 Nov 2004 11:03:08
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InnleggSkrevet: 19 Apr 2008 08:04:15    Tittel: Re: Ovalem or Gvalem Gard in Tysnes. Svar med Sitat

This is Marie Benedicte in 1801 cencus http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=hentglobal&regis ter=gardsnavn&pgj=185&teljing=ft1801&filnamn=f11223.wc2&amt=12&funnenr =319

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Ble registrert: 21 Aug 2006 10:29:50
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InnleggSkrevet: 20 Apr 2008 01:23:13    Tittel: Re: Ovalem or Gvalem Gard in Tysnes. Svar med Sitat

Those links don't seem to work or at least for me. I believe I found Marie Benedicte living at Walde in 1801 census.
I am trying to find Hendrik Meier Qvalem in the 1801 census and anything else about him(the farm Qvalem or Kvalem?) There are people living where Marie Benedicte live that have the same middle or last name and one is born at Qvalem.
Could you tell me who the nine children were and their birthyears if that is in the bygdebok. I found Susanna born 1822 and Marie Benedicta in 1824. 7 more?
Thanks,
David
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InnleggSkrevet: 20 Apr 2008 02:56:59    Tittel: Re: Ovalem or Gvalem Gard in Tysnes. Svar med Sitat

Hello !

In the bygdebok for Tysnes I have found Marie Benedikte Haugs born 1784 and died 1846 , married 1808 to Henrik (Meyer) "Qualem", Ølve born 1785 and died 1852. They live on the farm VADLA in Tysnes. (Tysnesbok nr.3)
They have this children:
Petter Henrik Meyer born 1809 died before 1847
Gjertrud Marie born 1812 married 1837 to Jonas Heljeson Sætre, Halsnøy, farmer.
Henrik Meyer born 1814 died 1892, married 1838 to Ragnhild Heljesdatter Sætre, Halsnøy.They lived on the farm Vadla and had 13 children.
Jonas Haugs born 1817, died 1833
Sofie Elisabet born 1819 died 1857, married to Johannes Mikkelson Kattaland born 1812 died 1881, lived on Store Heie, they had 10 children. and lived on the farm Store Heie in Tysnes.
Susanna born 1822, married 1844 to carpenter Erik Heljeson Sætre, Halsnøy
Marie Benedikte born 1824 died 1887, married 1845 to Lars Olson Gjerstad 1815-1887. They had 8 children. and lived on the farm To in Tysnes.
Lars Henrik stillborn 1827
Margrete born 1830 died 1894, married 1851 to Rasmus Johannesson Økland 1830-1885, they had 10 children. and lived on the farm Økland in Tysnes.
I hope you understand my english ! Embarassed

Anne
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InnleggSkrevet: 20 Apr 2008 08:15:43    Tittel: Re: Ovalem or Gvalem Gard in Tysnes. Svar med Sitat

I found one Hendrich Meyer 16 years old in 1801 in Bergen.
His grandfather was "giæstgiver" in Godøsundet, Tysnes

Amt Prestegjeld Sokn Gard Merknad
8 Søndre Bergenhuus Tysnes Tysnes Godøsundet 'giæstgiverstædet.'
Førenamn Mellomnamn Etternamn Hushaldstill. Alder Sivilstand Yrke Merknad Kjønn
62 Olaus Haugs Huusbonde 48 Begge i 1ste ægteskab Previligeret giæstgiver og gaardsbeboer M
63 Magrethe Mejer Hans kone 58 Begge i 1ste ægteskab 'fød mejer.' K
64 Elisabet Magrethe Qvalejem Konens moder 86 Enke efter 1ste ægteskab 'fød mejer.' K
65 Elisabeth M. Qvaljem Mandens børn 24 Ugifte K
66 Anne Sophie Qvalejm Mandens børn 18 Ugifte K
67 Niels Rasmusen Tienestefolk 30 Ugifte M
68 Christie Ellingsdtr Tienestefolk 26 Ugifte K

Digitalarkivet 2004. Rettar til databasen: Digitalarkivet. Versjon frå 29.10.1999

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Ble registrert: 22 Nov 2004 11:03:08
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InnleggSkrevet: 20 Apr 2008 08:46:12    Tittel: Re: Ovalem or Gvalem Gard in Tysnes. Svar med Sitat

I think Elisabet Margrethe Qvalejem is Hendrich`s grandmother.

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Ble registrert: 21 Aug 2006 10:29:50
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InnleggSkrevet: 20 Apr 2008 17:41:19    Tittel: Re: Ovalem or Gvalem Gard in Tysnes. Svar med Sitat

Thanks so much for all that data. Is Hendrik Qvalem born in another district? I can't figure out which Hendrik fits from the 1801 census of Tysnes so maybe he isn't from there?
What would Ølve mean?
Oops, I seem to have missed some posts as I see them below while I am replying to you.
I will have to print it off and look at it much further. You seem to have answered my questions.
Thank you so much.
David
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Ble registrert: 21 Aug 2006 10:29:50
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InnleggSkrevet: 20 Apr 2008 17:54:59    Tittel: Margaret Elisabeth Schønning Skorpen Svar med Sitat

I'm not sure if that link worked but I don't see a Marie Benedicte just a Marie. The only Marie I see on your link is
#7 Marie Fyren Finde Christine Pritzier Tienestefolk 31 Ugift Nyder pension af post cassen
Here is the link I think she is:
http://digitalarkivet.uib.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=7 &filnamn=f11223&gardpostnr=33&personpostnr=381&merk=381#ovre

381 Marie Benedicte Hans datter 17 Ugift
Living at Walde

It is starting to make more sense now about Hendrik. How far is Bergen from Tysnes?

Just as an aside, there are some very different names in the census records that I haven't seen in other parts of Norway
Pritzier
Svarz
Fyren Finde
Wolf
Mejer (Meyer)
which seem more of a German influence??? Is that area influenced by trade a lot or where would those kinds of names come from. Any links that might explain this, if it is different, would be informative.
Thanks so much to everyone for their assistance.
David Vinge
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Ble registrert: 22 Nov 2004 11:03:08
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InnleggSkrevet: 21 Apr 2008 00:42:41    Tittel: Re: Margaret Elisabeth Schønning Skorpen Svar med Sitat

In 1801 cencus from Bergen Bergen
Amt Sokn Gard
636 Bergen 9de Rode 14
Førenamn Etternamn Hushaldstill. Alder Sivilstand Yrke Kjønn
4585 Jørg Greve Huusfader 67 Enkemand af 1. ægteskab Guldsmeed F
4586 Hendrich Meyer 16 Læredreng M
4587 Johane Andersdtr 44 Ugift Tienestepige M

I think he is working in Bergen. Bergen is close to Tysnes.

Ølve is inside Tysnes. The county is Kvinnherad.

If you google : Hanseatene and Bergen you will find info about Bergen.
Det tyske Hansaforbundet had office in bergen from 1360-1754.

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Ble registrert: 21 Aug 2006 10:29:50
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InnleggSkrevet: 27 Apr 2008 17:22:53    Tittel: Re: Ovalem or Gvalem Gard in Tysnes. Svar med Sitat

Thanks so much for the information. I am having a bit of a hard time connecting the families.
My guess is that Olaus Hougs is Hendrichs father?
Not sure "His grandfather was "giæstgiver" in Godøsundet, Tysnes" means. Who is his grandfather?
Under what Parish/town in 1801 would Ølve come under? And if I wanted to find Hendrick's baptism where should I look?
Thank you for your time and efforts to direct me. The names don't follow patronyms, so a bit harder to figure out. I should be thankful I don't have to look for Ole Olsen!
David Vinge
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Ble registrert: 11 Jul 2006 08:05:16
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InnleggSkrevet: 28 Apr 2008 20:43:53    Tittel: Re: Ovalem or Gvalem Gard in Tysnes. Svar med Sitat

Hello !
I have looked in the Tysnes book, no.3, and I have found Hendrich parents on the farm Godøysundet.
You will find his birth in Kvinnherad kirkebok for 1778.1811.
Henrik Meyer 1785-1852 son to
Henrik Johannesson Kvalem 1748-1806 married 1773 to Sofie Larsdatter Gåte, Hatlestrand, Kvinnherad, they lived there and Henrik worked in Ølve. and for a while they lived at Husa, Ølve.
Henrik Johannesson Kvalem 1748-1806 son to:
Johannes Monson "Qvalheim", Manger 1709-1783 and married 1742 to Elisabet Margrete Meyer, Bergen born 1715 and lived in 1801.

There are written much more in the book .
As far as I can see you have relative in Tysnes today. If you want contact with them please let me know.

Very Happy Anne
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Ble registrert: 05 Sep 2007 08:40:33
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InnleggSkrevet: 29 Apr 2008 21:31:12    Tittel: Re: Ovalem or Gvalem Gard in Tysnes. Svar med Sitat

Wow, thank you. Olve is a town or Sokn (or are those equal?).
In this:
Sofie Larsdatter Gåte, Hatlestrand, Kvinnherad,
it says she was born at Gate? or residence at the time of marriage, after marriage.
Hatlestand is part of the town/area of Kvinnherad?
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Ble registrert: 21 Aug 2006 10:29:50
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InnleggSkrevet: 30 Apr 2008 07:59:09    Tittel: Re: Ovalem or Gvalem Gard in Tysnes. Svar med Sitat

This is not my direct family but a relative to the person. I will send this info onto him.
David Vinge
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