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Ble registrert: 23 Apr 2015 04:29:25
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InnleggSkrevet: 17 Sep 2018 16:54:30    Tittel: Father of Andreas Olsen Hammer Svar med Sitat

My great grandmother was Marie Justine Andreasdatter Hammer, born in 1859 at Hammer, Overhalla, and died in 1916 in the USA.

I’m having some trouble trying to determine her father’s (my great great grandfather’s) ancestors. He was Andreas Olsen Hammer, born in 1804, Værem, Grong, Norway, died 1884, Hammer, Skage, Overhalla.

The records I’ve found for his father identify him as Ole Olsen Hammer or Berge or Jørum, born either in Jørem or Berge, Grong, and died either in Berge, Grong or Hammer, Skage, Overhalla. Other trees identify him as Olof Hammar.

The dates differ somewhat in different trees: Ole Olsen Berge 1773 – 1855 or Ole Olsen Jørem 1769 – 1853, Ole Olsen Hammer 1769 – 1859, or Olof Hammar 1763-?

According to some records, Ole Olsen’s wife was Beret Pedersdatter Værum, born 1774, Værem, Grong, died 1847, Hammer, Skage, Overhalla.

Other records have him married to Johanna Taraldsdatter Berge (født Værum)
1773 or 1775 – 1854. Johanna does not appear to be the mother of Andreas Olsen Hammer. Kerstin Jonsdatter 1786-1847 is given as Olof Hammar’s wife.

I’ve seen Ole Olsen Hammer/ Berge/Jørum’s father identified as Ole Taraldsen Berge or Jørum, 1717 – 1794, and his mother as Margarethe Madsdatter Lestum or Jørem, but Ole Olsen Hammer/ Berge/Jørum is not always listed as their child.

Can someone help me sort this out?
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Ble registrert: 03 Des 2004 09:16:49
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InnleggSkrevet: 17 Sep 2018 17:20:14    Tittel: Re: Father of Andreas Olsen Hammer Svar med Sitat

One thing first. Marie Justine was not baptized as Marie Justine, but only Marie.

https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070423660110

Of course that depends if it is the one who married Otto Mathias Aleksandersen Furrunes b 1864 in Overhalla and married Feb 15th 1900 in skage kirke in Overhalla, and was previosly married to Johannes Williamsen Ekker b 155 in Overhalla and married March 26th 1883 in Skage kirke in Overhalla.

Since I believe I have you in my database I assume I am correct.
Now your Andreas Olsen.

His Christening is here:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16461&idx_id=16461&u id=ny&idx_side=-98

His Parents are Ole Olsen b 1776 in Grong, and Berethe Pedersdtr Værum b 1774 in Grong.

Ole Olsen's christening:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16459&idx_id=16459&u id=ny&idx_side=-142

His parents are Ole Christoffersen Berre (1744-1789 born and died in Grong and Beret Olsdtr lestum b i 1850 in Overhalla.

Berethe Pedersdtr Værum's christeing,
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16459&idx_id=16459&u id=ny&idx_side=-137

Her parents are Peder Hansen Grandaunet (1730 in Overhalla d1823 in Grong and Gidsken Eriksdtr Vibstad b 1734 in Overhalla and d 1801 in Grong.
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Ble registrert: 03 Des 2004 09:16:49
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InnleggSkrevet: 17 Sep 2018 17:24:53    Tittel: Re: Father of Andreas Olsen Hammer Svar med Sitat

The marriage of Peder Hansen Grandaunet and Gidsken Eriksdtr Vibstad in 1765.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16459&idx_id=16459&u id=ny&idx_side=-240

The marriage of Ole Christoffersen Berre and Beret Olsdtr Lestum in 1773 here
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=16459&idx_id=16459&u id=ny&idx_side=-246
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Ble registrert: 03 Des 2004 09:16:49
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InnleggSkrevet: 17 Sep 2018 17:28:08    Tittel: Re: Father of Andreas Olsen Hammer Svar med Sitat

If you are the Martha Anderson I think you are we are 7th cousins. (The granddaughter of Astrid Ecker.)
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Ble registrert: 23 Apr 2015 04:29:25
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InnleggSkrevet: 17 Sep 2018 17:59:15    Tittel: Re: Father of Andreas Olsen Hammer Svar med Sitat

Anne skrev:
If you are the Martha Anderson I think you are we are 7th cousins. (The granddaughter of Astrid Ecker.)


Thanks, and yes, I am your cousin Martha Anderson. I think you answered a question for me a couple of years ago. Always good to get to know your cousins!

I was just looking an some old genealogies my mother had drawn up. She just refers to her grandmother as Marie. I'm not sure how the Justine got in there. I'll have to see if I can track down the source.

She didn't have anything for Ole Andreas's parents. She had a little more detail about the Ekker side.

I may have some more questions as I go along. I'm getting very few matches on ancestry.com for this branch of my tree and I question some of the ones I found on myheritage.

Martha
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Ble registrert: 03 Des 2004 09:16:49
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InnleggSkrevet: 17 Sep 2018 18:22:24    Tittel: Re: Father of Andreas Olsen Hammer Svar med Sitat

send me an email to ahildrum@gmail.com and I can send you what I have on Marie's ancestry.

There are a lot of erros on MyHeritagae as people just copy from iother without checking the soruces, and if you have several people named Ole Olsen at the same farm it is easy to go wrong.
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