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Gertrude er kone til min oldefars bror Elias Nicholsen / Nicolaysen (Olsen).
Gertrude døde 09. Januar 1944 (71)
New Jersey, United States (Amerikas forente stater (USA))

Slekten i USA vet ikke hvor hun kom fra, annet enn at det var Norge.

Spørsmålet er: Kan noen hjelpe meg på vei?

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Når og hvor ble Elias født? Hvilket etternavn brukte han i USA? Noen anelse om når han dro over? Betyr Pettersen i parentes at dere mener det var hennes fødenavn. Det samme med Olsen. Bare noen spørsmål for å forenkle letingen.

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Noen svar her
Gjertrud f. 1872/1873 kom til USA ca 1892, de ble gift ca 1900
Census 1920 er de i New York, 1930 og 1940 i New Jersey (fra Familysearch)

Census 1910 her:

Name: Elias Nicholson
Event Type: Census
Event Date: 1910
Event Place: Manhattan Ward 12, New York, New York, United States
Event Place (Original): Manhattan Ward 12, , New York
Gender: Male
Age: 36
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Birth Year (Estimated): 1874
Birthplace: Norway
Immigration Year: 1890
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Relationship to Head of Household: Head
Relationship to Head of Household (Original): Head
Sheet Letter: A
Sheet Number: 9
Record Number: 21649


Household Role Sex Age Birthplace
Elias Nicholson Head M 36 Norway
Gertie Nicholson Wife F 38 Norway
Mabel Nicholson Daughter F 9 New York

District: ED 545
Sheet Number and Letter: 9A
Household ID: 191
Affiliate Name: The U.S. National Archives and Records Administration (NARA)
Affiliate Publication Number: T624
Affiliate Film Number: 1022
GS Film Number: 1375035
Digital Folder Number: 004973007
Image Number: 00463
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: N03545-9

Citing this Record
"United States Census, 1910," database with images, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M5HZ-2QP : accessed 3 April 2020), Mabel Nicholson in household of Elias Nicholson, Manhattan Ward 12, New York, New York, United States; citing enumeration district (ED) ED 545, sheet 9A, family 191, NARA microfilm publication T624 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, 1982), roll 1022; FHL microfilm 1,375,035.

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Her Mabel Olgas fødsel
Name: Mabel Olga Nichelsen
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 02 Sep 1900
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Gender: Female
Race: White
Father's Name: Louis Nichelsen
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Father's Age: 27
Mother's Name: Gertrude Petersen Nichelsen
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Age: 29

Other information in the record of Mabel Olga Nichelsen
Name: Mabel Olga Nichelsen
Event Type: Birth
Event Date: 02 Sep 1900
Event Place: Manhattan, New York, New York, United States
Gender: Female
Race: White
Father's Name: Louis Nichelsen
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Father's Age: 27
Mother's Name: Gertrude Petersen Nichelsen
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Age: 29

Reference ID: cn 34685
GS Film Number: 1953786

Citing this Record
"New York, New York City Births, 1846-1909," database, FamilySearch ( https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WWJ-64Z : 11 February 2018), Gertrude Petersen Nichelsen in entry for Mabel Olga Nichelsen, 02 Sep 1900; citing Manhattan, New York, New York, United States, reference cn 34685 New York Municipal Archives, New York; FHL microfilm 1,953,786.

Mulig immigrasjon 30.3.1891
Name: Gerthrud Petersen
Event Type: Immigration
Event Date: 1891
Event Place: New York City, New York, United States
Gender: Female
Age: 18
Nationality: Norway
Birth Year (Estimated): 1873
Birthplace: Norway
Ship Name: Austria

Affiliate Publication Number: M237
Affiliate Publication Title: Passenger Lists of vessels arriving at New York, 1820-1897
Affiliate Film Number: 564
GS Film Number: 001027610
Digital Folder Number: 004680458
Image Number: 00128

Citing this Record
"New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1891," database with images, FamilySearch ( https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVSV-1ZJQ : 3 April 2020), Gerthaerd Petersen, 1891; citing Immigration, New York City, New York, United States, NARA microfilm publication M237 (Washington, D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.), FHL microfilm 1,027,610.

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Gertrude og Mabel ankomst New York i 1908 etter besøk i Norge, Der oppgir hun å være født i Arendal
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C95R-Z9QT-K?i=288&cc= 1368704&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AJXPG-JMX

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C95R-Z9H8-8?i=289&cc= 1368704

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Det står at nærmeste pårørende er Mrs Jacobsen i Klevgaden i Arendal


I 1900 en Hanna Karine Jacobsen f.1863 i Klevgaden
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01037187001573

Hun er født 17.6.1863, nr 35
SAK, Tromøy sokneprestkontor, F/Fb/L0003: Klokkerbok nr. B 3, 1859-1868, s. 101
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060124011044
Datter av Peder Hansen og Helene Bergitte Hansdatter fra Næskilen

Her er familien i 1875 med en datter Berte Gurine Pedersdatter, f1871
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01052196007150

Berte Gurine er født 14.9.1871, nr 70
SAK, Tromøy sokneprestkontor, F/Fa/L0008: Ministerialbok nr. A 8, 1870-1877, s. 291-292
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060124010136

Gurine Pedersen med far i 1891
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01052886000315

Far, Peder Hansen dør 19.6.1891, nr 33
SAK, Barbu sokneprestkontor, F/Fa/L0003: Ministerialbok nr. A 3, 1883-1898, s. 119
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060728010119

Det virker sannsynlig at denne Gurine Pedersdatter reiser til USA etter farens død, og kaller seg Gertrud Pedersen

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Berthe Gurine Pedersen viet 31/8 1893 i New York med Oscar Hiller fra Tromsø

Jeg tror det hun som gifter seg i 1899 med Elias under navnet Genevivie Hiller

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Name: Bertha Gurine Pedersen
[Bertha Gurine Hansen]
Gender: Female
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Place: Arendal Norge
Marriage Date: 31 Aug 1893
Marriage Place: Brooklyn, New York, USA
Father: Peder Hansen
Mother: Helene Hansen
Spouse: Oscar Hiller
Church Name: Our Saviour's Lutheran
Church Location: Brooklyn, New York
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Bertha G Hiller
Residence Year: 1912
Street Address: 30 Central Ips
Residence Place: Salem, Massachusetts, USA
Publication Title: Salem, Massachusetts, City Directory, 1912

Ide «norske» kirkene var det norsktalende prester som skrev kirkebøkene på norsk.

Nr 127

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Name: Oscar Hiller
Arrival Age: 48
Birth Date: abt 1865
Port of Departure: Boston, Massachusetts, United States
Arrival Date: 18 Jun 1913
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England and Queenstown, Ireland
Ports of Voyage: Fishguard
Ship Name: Franconia
Shipping Line: Cunard Steamship Company Ltd
Official Number: 131315
Search Ship Database: Search for the Franconia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

Name: Oscar Hiller
Gender: Male
Marriage Age: 27
Record Type: Marriage
Birth Date: 24 May 1866
Birth Place: Tromso Norge
Marriage Date: 31 Aug 1893
Marriage Place: Brooklyn, New York, USA
Father: Petter Niller
Mother: Patrine Eilesta
Spouse: Bertha Gurine Pedersen
Church Name: Our Saviour's Lutheran
Church Location: Brooklyn, New York