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hi there

i am looking forany information on a ole olsen sagen who married a karen olsdatter winger 17 october 1784

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8577&idx_id=8577&uid =ny&idx_side=-49

2nd page almost half way down

i dont have anything on this couple except they had a son paul olsen who is my 3rd great grandfather he changed his last name to bommen on the birth of his son anders
and that ole was born about 1763 and died arond 1817 in hedenstad sandsvaer buskerud if anyone can help with parents of ole and karen did they have anymore children and their dates of birth and deaths i would be greatly appreciative

karen olsdatter winger i think was born 1758 in kongsberg ?
their son paul died 03 May 1867

thanks
ole vidar nilsen

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Hi

I believe I have found the birth of Paul (spelled Pavel) in Sandsvær, but I would like if anyone could give a second opinion!

It seems like Paul was a twin with a girl named Grete Cha??? and they were baptized Des 7, 1794 in Hedenstad in Sandsvær.
Father is Ole Olsen Broene Landsv.eje (meaning they now lived on a farm named Broene owned by a larger farm called Landsv. (Landsværk))
Among the godparents you find the names Sagen and Winger.
Mother's name is not mentioned, but it is written that she is "død" (dead).
The two at the bottom:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8577&idx_id=8577&uid =ny&idx_side=-107
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070316650346.jpg

Among the burried you find Karen Olsd. Landsværkeje who died Des 21, 1794. She was 34 years old.
At the very far right about midways down the page:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8577&idx_id=8577&uid =ny&idx_side=-420 http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070316650662.jpg

Looks like Ole remarried. This must be him and Paul in the 1801 census. Ole is no 2186:
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=22&fi lnamn=f18010629&gardpostnr=213&personpostnr=2186&merk=2186#ovre

Vivi

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hi vivi

it looks like you could be on to something and thank you for that and a second opinion would be good as there is alot of ole olsen the farm name is important and that is were it has confused me a lot in my searches i know this one is going to be hard

here is paul marriage and his death which i have found





ole vidar nilsen

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Hi

The twin sister of Paul died March 1, 1795 only 11 weeks old.
Her name looks like Grete Carina Landsvær eje.
You find her 12 names below her mother at the far right:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8577&idx_id=8577&uid =ny&idx_side=-420
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070316650662.jpg

Vivi

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Hi

I'm a bit confused here.
When Paul is married Des 26, 1818 he is said to be 27 years old. This makes him born around 1793.
The Paul Olsen Bommen who dies May 3, 1867 is said to be 62 1/2 years old. This makes him born around 1805.

I can accept that the Paul married is the same as Paul from Sandsvær; also because his farmname is Landsværk.
BUT the dead Paul Olsen Bommen seems to be a bit too young!

Vivi

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Hi

Is this the baptizm of your Anders Sept 23, 1832 in Sandsvær? Born Aug 5, 1832.
No 48:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8578&idx_id=8578&uid =ny&idx_side=-160
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070316660160.jpg

Father's name is Paul Olsen Brua Landsværkeie. (There is a word between Brua and Landsværkeie that I'm not able to read)
I don't see the name Bommen here.
I believe the Paul Olsen Bommen is another man.

Anders still at the farm Brua in the 1865 census:
http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=5&fil namn=f60629&gardpostnr=790&personpostnr=3688&merk=3688#ovre

Vivi

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From Sandsvær bygdebok nr 7
Paul Olsen Saga/Brua/Lillemoen/Bommen (1794-1867) married Inger Torkildsdt Bommen (1796-1858) in 1818
Children: Ole 1818 -1874, Torkild 1822, Karen Syrine 1827-1828, Kristian 1829, Anders 1832, Karen Syrine 1835-1835 and Karl 1838

Paul Olsen Saga with two sons i ft 1865
http://www.digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=2 9&filnamn=f60604&gardpostnr=685&personpostnr=4557&merk=4557#ovre

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Ole Olsen Saga born 1763 baptised 18/9 1763 parents Barbara Paulsdt Mørk og Ole Olsen Ristvedt
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8577&idx_id=8577&uid =ny&idx_side=-216

Ole Olsen Saga/Lillemoen died at Kristiania Tukthus 15/10 1817
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7402&idx_id=7402&uid =ny&idx_side=-67

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Karen Olsdt Winger born 1758 in Kongsberg baptised 15/4 1758
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8571&idx_id=8571&uid =ny&idx_side=-32

Her father died in 1763, burried 18/6
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8571&idx_id=8571&uid =ny&idx_side=-252

Her mother in 1770
http://www.digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=5 &filnamn=sk06041705&gardpostnr=1726&personpostnr=12155&merk=12155#ovre

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Hi.


Sandsvær bygdebok No. 7 is digitized but unfortunately it is available only for the Norwegian IP addresses.
I have copied the pages of the farms called Littlemoen and Brua where Ole and his family lived.
I hope you can translate the Norwegian text.
The pages are in PDF format.

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thank you so much vivi ,anne and leif for all your help it is hard to do my fsmily tree when everything is in norway but this will give me alot to intepret and ponder .
Iwas 8 when i came to australia and have only started to ask about my heritage in the last 4 years

thank you again.

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hi
all my information i recieved on the ole olsen line all the way to my grandmother ester ottillie bommen is in another post i made titled OLAF BOMMEN ANDERS BOMMEN AND PAUL OLSEN
in the kongsberg forum last answered february 2011 now that is all i had and not much information was given on ole olsen sagen and his wife and children and not much clarity on paul olsen and you have given me more thank you .
For without this forum i would be at a standstill very much appreciated

ole vidar nilsen